Although many tarot practitioners apply a Jungian psychological approach to their tarot work, there’s been a question as to whether Jung himself knew anything about tarot. In fact he did, and he would have liked to explore it more deeply but for a lack of hours in the day. Here are some of his references to the cards, although his tarot knowledge, especially of its history, was sorely lacking. Update: I’ve added brief notes by Jung on the Major Arcana here, and on “clouds of cognition” at the end of this article.
On 16 September 1930, Jung wrote to a Mrs. Eckstein:
“Yes, I know of the Tarot. It is, as far as I know, the pack of cards originally used by the Spanish gypsies, the oldest cards historically known. They are still used for divinatory purposes.”
[Jung was not always right: Current historical research does not support an original use of the cards by gypsies, nor were tarot cards the oldest known. The ordinary playing card deck (with many variations) preceded tarot by approximately 50 to 75 years. Tarot appeared first in Northern Italy roughly around 1440.]
On 1 March 1933, Carl Jung spoke about the Tarot during a seminar he was conducting on active imagination, demonstrating that he was a little more familiar with these images than we would have thought from just the preceding letter. This is a transcript of his actual spoken words:
“Another strange field of occult experience in which the hermaphrodite appears is the Tarot. That is a set of playing cards, such as were originally used by the gypsies. There are Spanish specimens, if I remember rightly, as old as the fifteenth century. These cards are really the origin of our pack of cards, in which the red and the black symbolize the opposites, and the division of four—clubs, spades, diamonds, and hearts—also belongs to the individuation symbolism. They are psychological images, symbols with which one plays, as the unconscious seems to play with its contents. They combine in certain ways, and the different combinations correspond to the playful development of events in the history of mankind. The original cards of the Tarot consist of the ordinary cards, the king, the queen, the knight, the ace, etc.,—only the figures are somewhat different—and besides, there are twenty-one cards upon which are symbols, or pictures of symbolical situations. For example, the symbol of the sun, or the symbol of the man hung up by the feet, or the tower struck by lightning, or the wheel of fortune, and so on. Those are sort of archetypal ideas, of a differentiated nature, which mingle with the ordinary constituents of the flow of the unconscious, and therefore it is applicable for an intuitive method that has the purpose of understanding the flow of life, possibly even predicting future events, at all events lending itself to the reading of the conditions of the present moment. It is in that way analogous to the I Ching, the Chinese divination method that allows at least a reading of the present condition. You see, man always felt the need of finding an access through the unconscious to the meaning of an actual condition, because there is a sort of correspondence or a likeness between the prevailing condition and
the condition of the collective unconscious.
“Now in the Tarot there is a hermaphroditic figure called the diable [the Devil card]. That would be in alchemy the gold. In other words, such an attempt as the union of opposites appears to the Christian mentality as devilish, something evil which is not allowed, something belonging to black magic.”[from Visions: Notes of the Seminar given in 1930-1934 by C. G. Jung, edited by Claire Douglas. Vol. 2. (Princeton NJ, Princeton University Press, Bollingen Series XCIX, 1997), p. 923.]
In The Archetypes of the Collective Unconscious (CW, Vol. 9:1, para 81), Jung wrote:
“If one wants to form a picture of the symbolic process, the series of pictures found in alchemy are good examples. . . . It also seems as if the set of pictures in the Tarot cards were distantly descended from the archetypes of transformation, a view that has been confirmed for me in a very enlightening lecture by professor [Rudolph] Bernoulli. The symbolic process is an experience in images and of images. Its development usually shows an enantiodromian* structure like the text of the I Ching, and so presents a rhythm of negative and positive, loss and gain, dark and light.” [*a Greek term used by Jung to mean ‘things turning over into their own opposite.’]
Dierdre Bair recounts in Jung: A Biography (Little, Brown, 2003, p. 549) that in 1950 Jung assigned to each of the four members of his Psychology Club an ‘intuitive, synchronistic method’ to explore. Hanni Binder was to research the Tarot and teach him how to read the cards. They determined that Grimaud’s Ancien Tarot de Marseille “was the only deck that possessed the properties and fulfilled the requirements of metaphor that he gleaned from within the alchemical texts.” Hanni Binder’s work amounted to very little as can be seen from her report preserved at the Jung Institute in New York. The group disbanded around 1954.
What was behind Jung’s attempt to gather all this material? Marie-Louise von Franz recounts in Psyche and Matter (1988) that toward the end of his life:
“Jung suggested investigating cases where it could be supposed that the archetypal layer of the unconscious is constellated*—following a serious accident, for instance, or in the midst of a conflict or divorce situation—by having people engage in a divinatory procedure: throwing the I Ching, laying the Tarot cards, consulting the Mexican divination calendar, having a transit horoscope or a geomantic reading done. If Jung’s hypothesis is accurate, the results of all these procedures should converge. . . . [*a Jungian term meaning ‘the coming together of elements in the unconscious so that they form a consciously recognizable pattern of relationships.’ Christine Houde adds, “The constellated material is activated in the psyche of the individual where it attempts to erupt into the field of experience.”]
“[This investigation would consist of] studying an incident (accident) by the convergence . . . of a multitude of methods, with the help of which we could try to find out what the Self “thought” of this particular accident. . . . The generally rather vague formulations of divinatory techniques resemble these “clouds of cognition” that, according to Jung, constitute “absolute knowledge.”
Von Franz further explains that Jung’s “clouds of cognition” represents an awareness on the part of our conscious intelligence of a far vaster field of information, an “absolute knowledge,” within the collective unconscious. These images, on the part of a “more or less conscious ego,” lack precise focus and detail. Thus, the realization of meaning has to be “a living experience that touches the heart just as much as the mind.” She continues:
“Archetypal dream images and the images of the great myths and religions still have about them a little of the “cloudy” nature of absolute knowledge in that they always seem to contain more than we can assimilate consciously, even by means of elaborate interpretations. They always retain an ineffable and mysterious quality that seems to reveal to us more than we can really know.”*
On 9 February 1960, about a year before he died, Jung wrote Mr. A. D. Cornell about the disappointing end to his grand experiment:
“Under certain conditions it is possible to experiment with archetypes, as my ‘astrological experiment’ has shown. As a matter of fact we had begun such experiments at the C. G. Jung Institute in Zurich, using the historically known intuitive, i.e., synchronistic methods (astrology, geomancy, Tarot cards, and the I Ching). But we had too few co-workers and too little means, so we could not go on and had to stop.”
The experiment proposed by Jung is discussed in the Journal of Parapsychology (March 1998): in an article titled: “The Rhine-Jung letters: distinguishing parapsychological from synchronistic events – J.B. Rhine; Carl Jung” by Victor Mansfield, Sally Rhine-Feather, James Hall. The authors conclude:
“Such an experiment fits our description of not being forced, controlling, or manipulating, but it presents its own difficulties. How, for example, can we convincingly show that the divinatory procedures in fact converge, that appropriate subjects were chosen when an archetype was actually constellated, that the data was taken without biasing the interpretation, and that other extraneous factors are not distorting the outcome? These problems are not insurmountable, but to do more than “preach to the converted,” this experiment or any other must be done with sufficient rigor that the larger scientific community would be satisfied with all aspects of the data taking, analysis of the data, and so forth.”
In 1984, Art Rosengarten (here shown with Tarot author, Eden Gray), as research for his doctoral dissertation, conducted an experiment very similar to the one described by Jung, in which he compared the tarot, TAT and dream interpretation. You can read about this experiment in his book, Tarot and Psychology: Spectrums of Possibility. I think Jung would have been pleased.
So what are we to make of all this?
Though not a direct focus of his energies, Carl Jung, nevertheless, recognized tarot as depicting archetypes of transformation like those he had found in myths, dreams and alchemy, and as having divinatory characteristics similar to the I-Ching and astrology. Most of all, Jung believed a person could use “an intuitive method” to understand—through tarot’s reflecting the collective unconscious into a “cloud of cognition”—the meaning in a present, prevailing condition.
See Jung’s own comments on the Major Arcana here.
ADDED: Here’s another statement by Jung on “clouds of cognition,” from the chapter, “On Life after Death,” in Memories Dream, Reflections, p 308. He states that in the “space-timelessness” surrounding an archetype there exists a diffuse cloud of cognition that contains “primorial images with many aspects” or “a “diffuse omniscience” but no discrete contents (that is, subjectless). For cognition to happen these potentialities [my word] have to be brought into space-time coordinates. Reading this entire chapter is absolutely essential to getting at what Jung saw as the source material for divinations.
“As I see it the three-dimensional world in time and space is like a system of co-ordinates, what is here separated into ordinates and abscissae may appear “there,” in space-timelessness, as a primordial image with many aspects, perhaps as a diffuse cloud of cognition surrounding an archetype. Yet a system of co-ordinates is necessary if any distinction of discrete contents is to be possible. Any such operation seems to us unthinkable in a state of diffuse omniscience, or, as the case may be, of subjectless consciousness, with no spatio-temporal demarcations. Cognition, like generation, presupposes an opposition, a here and there, an above and below, a before and after.”
For a different take, here is a bit of an interview with Jung on alchemy and predicting the future: “We can predict the future when we know how the present moment has evolved out of the past.”
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March 31, 2008 at 7:52 pm
judithornot
Thank you, Mary! As a psychology grad student, I always wanted to research Jung’s interest in tarot, but did not have the time. And my professors were too conservative to let me do my thesis on anything related to tarot. I very much appreciate all this information you gathered!
March 31, 2008 at 8:31 pm
Starweaver
Great post, Mary! So many tarot practitioners make use of the idea of Jungian archetypes to understand the workings of tarot divination and to help explain the process to others. The quotes you offer make it clear that Jung himself thought of tarot in much this way. One has to wonder what he would have come up with if he had focused on tarot in the same way he did alchemy and mythology.
Blessings, Tom
March 31, 2008 at 9:04 pm
marygreer
Judith –
That’s why I love being involved in what I call an “outlaw profession”—it totally bypasses all those conservative restrictions on what I do, although that doesn’t mean that I operate without a strong code of ethics. 😉
Tom –
How wonderful to hear from you! Hey, everyone, Tom is my co-author for our book Understanding the Tarot Court.
The fact that Jung didn’t write much on tarot frees us up to explore our own Jungian perspectives on the cards. To my mind, Sallie Nichols in Jung and the Tarot wrote an analysis of the Tarot de Marseille Major Arcana similar to what Jung might have done himself. But there’s always room for more commentary.
Mary
April 1, 2008 at 10:56 am
Dorothy Kernaghan-Baez
This article was amazing! I’ve been trying for quite some time to make a study of Carl Jung….you pulled some things together for me and made it easier for the information to stick in my head.
Thanks!
Dorothy
April 18, 2008 at 2:33 am
Michael
Hi, Mary,
I’ve seen some of this information previously, including posts you’ve made to TarotL, but it’s good to see the material collected into a coherent article in a Google-accessible site. Thanks.
Regarding Zurich-trained Jungians and their writings on Tarot, John Granrose, in his 1996 thesis for the Jung Institute, (The Archetype of the Magician), noted three of them.
* Irene Gad, Tarot and Individuation: Correspondences with Cabala and Alchemy (York Beach, ME: Nicolas-Hays, 1994)
* Kenneth D. Newman, The Tarot: A Myth of Male Initiation (New York: Quadrant, 1983) a book based on his Zürich diploma thesis
* Sallie Nichols, Jung and Tarot: An Archetypal Journey (York Beach, ME: Samuel Weiser, 1980).
Granrose’s own paper is online in at least two places.
http://www.granrose.com/main/articles/thesis.html
http://www.mythinglinks.org/magic~granrose.html
Best regards,
Michael
April 18, 2008 at 2:55 am
marygreer
Michael –
There are, of course, many other tarot books having a Jungian slant, although most are not by people who trained at the Jung Institute as these did.
Granrose has some interesting things to say about the Magician archetype and symbolism of the Wand and the infinity sign. A further example of this theme is The Magician Within: Accessing the Shaman in the Male Psyche by Robert Moore and Douglas Gillette.
Mary
June 3, 2008 at 5:25 am
Sashur
I was wondering if you had a direct reference to the quote from Jung’s seminar where he discusses the Tarot on March 1st, 1933. I am interested in using part of the quote in a research paper I am working on. Thank you!
June 3, 2008 at 5:27 am
Sashur
oh my gosh, I’m sorry. It’s right underneath! Silly me. Great article!
June 3, 2008 at 6:40 am
marygreer
Sashur – I’m glad to hear this info is making it into Research papers. I’d appreciate a mention of my blog in your footnotes. I assume you also saw my post on Jung’s brief descriptions of the major arcana.
November 30, 2008 at 4:47 pm
94stranger
Hi mary,
I noticed a link to your address had appeared on my blog. Pleased to find your feature on Jung here. To be absolutely frank, I find Jung a bit highbrow for me, but he certainly had a big influence on the Rainring cards – how could he not? Highbrow or not, I’ve always had a soft spot for him. I think my favourite Jung quote is ‘Thank God I am not a Jungian!’
I’m curious to know what impression you had of Rainring – if indeed you took a gander at the web site?
December 1, 2008 at 5:01 pm
mkg
stranger –
I’m not familiar with Rainring and I don’t know why a link to my blog appeared on yours. I hope your cards do well.
October 18, 2009 at 2:53 pm
Christine Houde
Thank you so much for your WONDERFUL article!! I’m so thrilled to see the references to von Franz whose books on fairytales are proving very helpful to my investigations into the psychological undertanding of the Tarot. One little, tiny thing: there is one thing about the use of the word “constellate” –in Jungian parlance, I believe, it is also meant to convey the idea that any archetypal content that becomes constellated, becomes activated in the psyche of the individual where it attempts to errupt into the field of experience.
All the best,
Christine Houde
October 18, 2009 at 6:49 pm
mkg
Christine –
Glad you like the article.
Thank you for clarifying the term “constellate.” You are so right about the action of constellated material. I’ll add your comments to to the text. Thank you for enriching our understanding.
Von Franz’s works are too often overlooked by those look only to Jung to study his concepts. Back in the 70s a very wise person told me to read the women Jungians if I really wanted to understand how to apply Jung’s ideas.
November 18, 2009 at 8:33 pm
Barbara
I’m not sure how I missed this post earlier. I watch your blog fairly regularly. I’ve been reading Jung and Jungians for the past year and a half now, in utter fascination, and hadn’t yet come across any evidence that Jung was very familiar with Tarot. But I just found this post linked at Aeclectic in a discussion of what makes Tarot work. Excellent! Thanks. 🙂
April 3, 2010 at 6:39 pm
camilla gold
just wanted to thank you for your informative blog…i am a homoeopathy student and have been researching stramonium (datura) and hyoscamus, two remedies that are often indicated where disease is expressed on the mental plane – also often used with great success in cases of autism and some forms of epilepsy.
what struck me when we first started looking at these remedies, was the fact that the disease being expressed, particularly in the case of stramonium, appears to be disease that is a symptom of an individual that is struggling with issues of transition; thus this remedy could be seen as a transitional remedy. further, i was intrigued as to how the core delusions seemed to be indicative of archetypes eg. in stramoniums case, the core delusion being fear of abandonment.
this train of thought then led me to two other thoughts 1.jung and his work on the collective unconscious and archetypes and 2. the tarot as a means of expressing archetype, specifically in the case of these remedies, which i felt could be interpreted as containing the essence of a combination of the following cards: the fool, death, the hanged man and the devil.
starting with jung, i was intrigued to learn that his concept of archetypes developed out of his work with patients that suffered from conditions such as schizophrenia, as it was through them that he first noticed that they appeared to experience common delusions/hallucinations. so my theory of these remedies being linked to archetypes seemed to be on the right track.
from here, as i “dabbled” in tarot when in my teens, i started to do a little refresher research into the meaning of the tarot cards that had popped into my head as i was reading about the remedies, and again, as I had suspected, contained in these four cards were the essence of both the remedies and the core delusions/hallucinations found in various expressions of schizophrenia and autism.
so now back to you – imagine my delight when i found all of this confirmed on the pages of your blog – the more i study the extraordinary science and art that is homoepathy, the more i am delighted and astounded by the interconnectedness of all that we do. so thank you for your blog – it means that yet again, i am going down the path of more research, which probably diverts me a little from the task of just getting this assignment written, but what a journey!
thank you
camilla
April 6, 2010 at 6:22 pm
mkg
Camilla –
It is interesting that you’ve made a connection between homeopathic remedies, archetypes and tarot in your post. However, I wouldn’t put archetypes in the same camp as delusions/hallucinations, as you seem to have done (did I misunderstand you?). Archetypes are themes that appear cross-culturally, and across time, in art, literature and myth as well as in the dreams of individuals. Nor are archetypes about “fear of abandonment,” although that could be seen as one of many archetypal motifs. Each of the Major Arcana can be associated with several different archetypes.
You might be interested in my book The Essence of Magic: Tarot, Ritual and Aromatherapy (sadly o.p.) that draws parallels between tarot cards and essential oils.
Mary
April 7, 2010 at 11:58 am
Christine H.
Hi, Camilla! I have a few quotes from Jung’s Collected Works that I hope you find helpful regarding archetypes.
“The term ‘archetype’ is often misunderstood as meaning a certain definite mythological image or motif…on the contrary, [it is] an inherited tendency [i.e., ability, potential] of the human mind to form representations of mythological motifs-representations that vary a great deal without losing their basic pattern…This inherited tendency is instinctive, like the specific impulse of nest building, migration, etc., in birds. One finds these ‘representations collectives’ practically everywhere, characterized by the same or similar motifs. They cannot be assigned to any particular time or region or race. They are without known origin and they can reproduce themselves even where transmission through migration [the movement of culture from one location to another] must be ruled out. (CW 18:523)”
“We must constantly bear in mind that what we mean by ‘archetype’ is in itself irrepresentible, but has effects which make visualization of it possible namely, the archetypal images and ideas (CW 8:417).”
“…besides [the intellect] there is a thinking in primordial images, in symbols which are older than the historical man, which are inborn in him from the earliest times, and, eternally living, outlasting all generations, still make up the ground work of the human psyche. (CW 8:794))”
Hope this is useful,
Christine H.
April 7, 2010 at 12:17 pm
mkg
Christine – Thanks for the wonderful quotes on archetype. They are very helpful.
Specific images are often referred to as “archetypal” to differentiate them from the true archetype that is primordial and has no form. Note that Jung himself (quoted in my post) refers to specific cards in the Major Arcana as “archetypal ideas of a differentiated nature” [my emphasis].
Mary
April 9, 2010 at 5:30 am
camilla gold
thanks again for all this info on archetypes – and apologies that in my rush to get out my thoughts i did not express myself clearly! i did not mean that archetypes are synonymous with delusions/hallucinations, i was referring to Jung’s work at Burgholz psychiatric hospital, where he first observed the universal symbolism in the delusions/hallucinations of patients experiencing extreme psychoses – if you are not familiar with the remedies stramonium and hyoscamus, i recommend you look up their symptoms, i think you will find them very interesting, particularly when it comes to primordial archetypes….camilla
April 9, 2010 at 10:12 am
mkg
Camilla – Thanks for clarifying. It was confusing.
April 16, 2010 at 2:15 pm
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April 27, 2010 at 12:21 pm
linda velazquez
thank you for your work. its wonderful!
Linda V
August 22, 2010 at 12:38 pm
Jessica Eldenstjärna
Hi Mary and all you people who have left such inspiring and stimulating comments to this post.
I’m an intuitive artist from Sweden that tries to combine my knowledge of the archetypal world and my sensitivity to recieve archetypal and “spiritual” information/images with my proffession as an artist (also illustrator) and intuitive creative coach. It is a blessing to be a part of a whole in this way and it is my hope to nurse and share this the best I can. I have always, since a very young age, been drawn to Tarot, cabalah, Jung, alchemy and other systems/expressions of life. Today I am a member of a Christian Church but that hasn’t changed any of my previous inclinations to research and use other spiritual/personal growth paths. A lot of the esoteric knowledge is to me a great map to an even greater map where all paths seem to join and explain very much the same things but from different perspectives. I have a huge respect for all spiritual practitioneers and welcome knowledge from all religions, cultures, perspectives, filosophies. When you are sincere in your approach to life, the light in your heart will guide you. Today I found your blog, and I am looking forward to read more as I think this is a great source of high quality information regarding a lot of the things I use in my everyday life.
I refer a lot to Jung in my work, and I view my world very much through “archetypal eyes”, I practise Tarot, but yearn for more experience and understanding, I try to use the knowledge and wisdom I have in many ways, some are more spiritual, other ways are more associated with personal growth and a psycological understanding. The difficulty today is that many people are “scared” of certain terminology, some don’t like “new age-type of stuff”, some people won’t get near any religious or spiritual material and other people have other preconceptions which is a shame as I think there are gems in most places as long as you try to look a little deeper.
I am sorry for blabbering on like this, but I just wanted to express my happiness to have found your blog, where it seems you stay away from preconceptions and shallow renderings of subjects that som much needs proper space and explanation which I feel you provide.
Excuses also for my english which might be confusing at times when I am unsure of the proper word to use.
Love Jessica
August 22, 2010 at 1:54 pm
mkg
Jessica –
Thank you for writing about your love of the esoteric, archetypal and tarot. We all have preconceptions about things and I find that trying to understand where someone else’s preconception comes from often allows me to address their particular concern more directly. I don’t want to convince others so much as open a door a crack so they can see they might be missing a piece of information. Likewise, there is information I don’t have from their perspective.
The thing I love about doing this blog is that I write about the things that fascinate me rather than about the things a publisher thinks the public wants (i.e., another introductory book on the tarot!). It’s such a relief to not have to satisfy the expectations of others.
September 8, 2010 at 2:25 pm
Jessica Eldenstjärna
Mary!
I am with you 🙂
thank you for that, and yes, preconceptions exists in all of us more or less and it is great if one can be humble enough to see that they, as you mention, of course too can teach us things.
Life gives us many opportunities to learn and grow
Jessica
February 2, 2011 at 7:04 pm
Wizardiaoan
Thanks Mary for noting Jung’s comments on the Tarot. I sure wish he would have delved more into it. I have become intrigued with “The Fool’s Journey,” how the serial order of the major arcana and the corresponding progression of number gives way to a natural story of soul development, even a true freemasonry.
For example, aligning them with the Tree of Life, I see Key XIX as in Chesed and Key XX is the rising of the adept above the abyss, that core process of enlightenment. Key XXI is the full attainment of the Magister Templi in Binah. That is as high as the 22 keys go I think, one must extend the Tarot beyond 22 to detail the higher grades beyond Binah. I have worked this out in my “Nv Freemasonry” system.
February 2, 2011 at 7:14 pm
mkg
Wizardiaoan –
Isn’t it wonderful that there are so many ways to relate the tarot to the Tree of Life! I would, however, like to make it clear for other readers that Jung does not seem to have worked with the Qabalistic Tree or Masonry, so these are not meant to suggest that this is something that Jung would have associated with Tarot.
March 7, 2011 at 8:52 pm
Wizardiaoan
Hi MKG,
I encountered this thread again and thought I would follow up by pointing out that Jung’s three conjunctions as detailed in the last chapter of his Mysterium are essentially those of Gerard Dorn, who in turn likely originated his ideas from the Tetractys (via the Axiom of Maria). Since the Tetractys is correlated to the Tree of Life, the structure of Jung’s individuation process can be correlated thereto indirectly.
Edward Edinger does just this in his Mysterium Lectures commentary to Jung’s Mysterium, which I strongly recommend. This in essence brings the Jungian psychology of individuation and modern magick, which is based upon the Tree of Life and the Rosicrucian grades, together in one system.
So yes in my previous comment I was just relating my interest in the serial unfoldment of the Tarot as a veritable process of spiritual unfoldment that is somewhat overlooked in favor of their placement on the Tree of Life, etc., not claiming it was traditional (hehe). But please do consider Jung’s three conjunctions as very well elucidated by Edward Edinger in his Mysterium lectures, and one will discover:
1
~unus mundus~
1 1
~unio corporalis~
1 1 1
~unio mentalis~
1 1 1 1
March 8, 2011 at 1:34 pm
mkg
Wizardiaoan – I must admit I am intrigued and hope to get time to look into Edinger’s book. Mysterium Coniunctionis was one of the first books I owned by Jung (back in the 1970s), and I must admit that it was over my head at the time, though I bravely plowed through it. It seems that Edinger’s own book, explicating Jung’s work is essential reading.
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frank hall
Most interesting that Jung acknowledged multiple methods of synchronicity, including I Ching, Tarot, Dreams, etc. I am sure he would also see today’s Tarot as a multi-cultural deepening and expanding, with so many diverse decks from Grail to Xultun,, a way to overcome one’s cultural confines and move in the direction of Individuation within the whole World context.
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C. Victor Posing
I am very impressed with this site—think I will jump up and down.lol. I have a book about Jung and Tarot. Also, I am an artist and painted the Rider-Waite major arcana on canvas panels for the fun of it.
August 9, 2011 at 12:44 pm
mkg
C. Victor,
I’m glad you like my blog. Would love to see pictures of the cards you painted. Did you recreate them exactly or ‘take liberties’? Are you referring to Sallie Nichols’ book on Jung and the Tarot or have you written such a book yourself?
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This is a gold mine of information, Mary, it will take a few hours to digest it all. I do workshops with a Jungian colleague and we’ve adapted a few courses to include the cross-over between Jungian ideas and the Tarot. Not to mention that people do ask the “What was Jung’s involvement with the Tarot?” question, and now I have an answer for them! Thanks for subscribing to my new blog, it’s wonderful to have you on board. Best to you with thanks for all you do for the Tarot community~~Jeanne
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October 12, 2012 at 5:57 pm
musicis2words
I have to wonder if we are programmed by various archetypes that get emphasized in our culture, especially tarot & astrology. I say this because I went through my whole life unaware of my prevailing archetype, yet it still had an effect on me that seemed to grow as tarot cards became more prevalent in our culture. Any advice?
http://musicis2words.wordpress.com/2012/09/07/as-above-so-below-are-we-programmed-by-archetypes
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mkg
musicis2words –
It seems you have misunderstood Jung’s concept of archetypes. I can’t write a whole essay on it here, but I suggest you read further in Jung himself. The short answer is that 1) tarot and astrology are not ‘archetypes’ although they contain ‘archetypal’ images, and 2) anything in the unconscious – collective, cultural or personal – can pop into actuality when triggered.
Everything in our environment and biology affects us. There is something referred to as archetypal possession. It’s when a particular energy, not our own, seems to take over our personalities. This often happens under mob rule, national fervor, fascination with cultural heros/celebrities, and various fads (cultural archetypes). After it passes, we usually move back to a more ‘normal’ (for us) set-point (but always marked by the occurrence).
If I look and act like a banker is it because I was programmed by a banker archetype when young, or because it fits my ‘natural’ proclivities, or have I been ‘possessed’ by the power and allure of the banker archetype, or have I deliberately put it on like a costume to fit in with banker-types or to achieve something I want? And, are there more possibilities that I haven’t even mentioned?
You seem to be saying that, without knowing anything about tarot or astrology, you became, as you got older, even more like what their description of you said you would be. And you seem to be postulating that this might not have occurred at a time when tarot and astrology were not as prevalent in our culture.
It’s an interesting theory and you might want to read Jung’s essay on the appearance of UFOs, culture and psychology, if you haven’t already.
Personally, I think if you take the overly-charged word “programmed” out of the equation, and look at all the options rather than just one, you might be able to consider the topic in a more even-handed way as one of many possible influences.
October 13, 2012 at 12:10 pm
musicis2words
Youre correct, I do need to study Jung more. However, the odd thing here, is that my mother (4/4 bdate) adhered to the archetype represented by the 4th trump of the Thoth deck so much, that I cannot avoid it. Every symbol is in some part represented in her life, so much so that it is bizarre. The fact that my life seems so reversed (12/12), especially with the fact that I was orig left-handed forced to be right, as a child, is indicative of the 12th trump archetype. Neither one of us was that into the tarot, and I had certainly never heard of it when I was turned away from being left handed. I mean, it is uncanny. I feel that the tarot, being so popular these days, has gotten into collective consciousness, in the form of memes. As more people get into the tarot, more eyes see it, the more these symbols become memes in the collective consciousness. A theory based on my experience.
October 13, 2012 at 12:59 pm
mkg
musicis2words –
Jung would have explained these seeming coincidences as “synchronicity” – a theory he developed with physicist Wolfgang Pauli, to explain non-causal relationships. No one has yet been able to prove Jung’s theory, but when dealing with Jungian concepts a synchronicity cannot be “programmed” or caused, because it is, by his definition, acausal (without cause-and-effect).
Also, tarot and astrology don’t necessarily ’cause’ any of the effects you are talking about. They may simply be mirrors reflecting a deeper state of being that we can’t see.
July 6, 2013 at 4:52 am
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January 23, 2014 at 6:57 am
Howard Tonkin
Great post. Thank you. I think readers of this post will enjoy and find of interest this Depth Psychology resource page, which is full of frees on and by Carl Jung and prominent Jungian Analysts. Here’s the link:http://www.psychotherapysussex.co.uk/depthpsychologyresources/
Thank you for posting.
Warm wishes
Howard
January 19, 2015 at 6:34 am
tarotyesorno
Wow I am really impressed and amazed about Carl Jung. And list of additional information about him really helped on my research. Thank you very much for helping me understand more about him and his work.
February 12, 2015 at 8:34 am
anne robinson
Hello Mary and Readers:
This is a wonderful contribution to tarot. I too wish that Jung had had the time to further develop his intuitions about the Tarot. What you have researched and shared here is so helpful.
One point about Archetypes:
Archetypes, per se, are theoretical assumptions. They are patterns and potentialities supposed or assumed to exist beyond psychic perception.
The central archetype being the Self. Another name for God, really.
We can’t ‘know’ God or the Self, or archetypes in and of themselves as they are beyond our experience psychologically. Remember that Jung considered himself a scientist, not a metaphysician.
What we witness of archetypes are projected images.
Jung was careful to distinguish between archetypes per se and archetypal imagery that we witness in ourselves and in the world.
Just wanted to add that to the mix here.
Anne, Jungian Analyst, Zurich.
February 12, 2015 at 9:46 am
mkg
Thanks, Anne. Not everyone understands the distinction between archetype and ‘archetypal’. I call the archetype the ‘cosmic cookie-cutter’ in the sky, and archetypal images, the cookie we’re able perceive. Not an exact analogy, but what is?
February 12, 2015 at 9:49 am
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April 18, 2015 at 1:10 pm
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April 26, 2015 at 6:09 am
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Great read! I wanted to take the opportunity to learn more about tarot and reading this article about Carl Jung had help me a lot to make more applications and tarot reading scripts that I can offer for free. Thank you very much MKG for giving me this opportunity.
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January 14, 2016 at 9:01 am
lewislafontaine
Jung: A Biography by Deirdre Bair is fraught with over 135 misrepresentations and outright falsifications of historical fact.
The discriminating reader ought to take great care in accepting the contents of her “biography” at face value.
Here are some of Ms. Bair’s misrepresentations and and falsifications as found in “Jung Stripped Bare: By His Biographers Even” by Sonu Shamdasani.
….
[As owner of this blog, I’ve deleted over 3,000 words taken from the above mentioned book as none of this deals with the question of Jung’s interest in or knowledge of Tarot. If interested, read Shamdasani’s book for yourselves. mkg]
January 14, 2016 at 4:15 pm
mkg
Lewislafontaine –
I don’t doubt that biographies misrepresent the original person and Bair’s book may be more egregious than most (I don’t know). However, I verified Jung’s discussions of Tarot with Hanni Binder via Hanni Binder’s original notes, which I obtained from the New York Jung Institute. The other Tarot quotes come directly from a letter and from published works by Jung. Since there is no information about Jung and Tarot in your 3,000 words taken from Shamdasani’s book I’ve eliminated that material as it is irrelevant to the above post and its excessive length may be deemed as copyright infringement. This is not the place to air grievances with Bair that are not specific to the topic of the blog post.
Mary
January 14, 2016 at 8:18 pm
lewislafontaine
Mary: Kindly delete my original comment in its entirety as well as this humble request once you have done so. Thank you.
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March 21, 2017 at 11:57 am
Jessica Ripley
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An interesting look at prominent psychologist Carl Jung and his view on Tarot.
April 16, 2017 at 6:52 am
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May 8, 2018 at 5:08 am
MLS
Fascinating . (As an aside: I wonder if Jung had thoughts on the I Ching.)
May 8, 2018 at 3:06 pm
mkg
MLS,
Yes, Jung wrote the introduction to Wilhelm’s translation of the I-Ching. It’s well worth reading. He mentions the I-Ching in several other contexts.
Mary
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September 23, 2019 at 12:25 pm
Mark Wogan
Hi all interesting stuff. Adding here my dissertation on tarot and art psychotherapy was awarded a 1st with distinction in 2019. I enjoyed the discussion to get my premise approved via the ethics committee. Mary’s work linking Jung to tarot helped. Her work complimented Inna Semetsky works on tarot and symbolic imagery, and likes of Sallie Nichols and Art Rosengarten. Jung’s Active imagination the development of Freuds free association is what led me to find a link with art psychotherapy because active imagination in one form or another is an accepted practice in the profession. Simply put it might also be said that active imagination is the technique used to do a tarot reading. I presented my findings to the West Yorkshire pagan group in a workshop to show how my theory works in practice to much applause. What to do next…
September 26, 2019 at 1:18 pm
Mary K. Greer
Mark,
I’m so happy to hear you integrating tarot and art psychotherapy. Yes, Active Imagination is key and tarot can be an excellent jumping off point. I hope you continue to write about your practice and how you learn to use the two together most effectively.
Mary
September 26, 2019 at 2:00 pm
markwogan2013
Hi Mary, thanks for writing personally. I’ve interacted in emails with Art Rosengarten and Inna Semetsky whilst writing the dissertation . You too found a reference with in its pages. I’d be happy to send you a copy of it via email to read if you have the time.
Kind regards
Mark
September 4, 2020 at 9:52 am
Victoria Belue
Thank you Mary for your informative article–twelve years later!
Synchronicity keeps ironically returning me to Jung and his work. Not only his work with synchronicity and dreams but alchemy and tarot which after more than two decades of studying and reading for clients resulted in me following my passion of writing and turning the archetypal tarot major arcana into characters in my urban fantasy series The Tarot Legacies. Book one, The Hand Dealt, is the origin story, according to my free flowing imagination of how the characters came to be real people.
As I continue to learn more from a non-fiction viewpoint from articles like yours I feel I bring more to my characters and my stories in the series. I’m currently writing book four which continues with alchemy influences. The synthesis I have found with one foot in each world, non-fiction and fiction, provides me with a rich and exciting experience for which I am incredibly grateful.
Thank you again.
Victoria Belue
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