Jim Carroll (1949 – Sept. 11, 2009), author of the book/film, The Basketball Diaries, as I knew him—poet, friend: Bolinas, California, 1976-78.
“And no more bad dreams forever.”
Jim, you wrote to me once: “You’ll be thinking of me as this happens . . .” And, I am.
below: Rosemary (before they married)
& Dee
and then: his own tribute to “People Who Died”
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all photos © Mary K. Greer
Someone who’s writing a book about Jim asked me a series of questions about his life in Bolinas (see also Tom Clark’s memorial) so I thought I’d include a version of my responses here:
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I first met Jim, briefly, at a garden party in Bolinas in the Spring of 1976 (I was newly arrived in San Francisco from Florida), and then I met him again at a smaller gathering in August or September of that year. There was a sense of fate about our two meetings (photo above of me taken by Jim in ’76). My impression of him was that he was sweet and shyly innocent. We went to the Marin Renaissance Fair a few days later. He was in the process of moving from his rooming house in Bolinas into the small farmhouse at the bottom of Mesa Road, and I was having to leave my flat in San Francisco, so he invited me to move in with him. But first he had to explain to me about his being on methadone, which surprised me (I think he was aware of how deceptively innocent he appeared). As I got to know him, I became convinced he was determined to get through his addiction, albeit slowly, since he had quit heroin cold turkey before (in New York) and then gone right back on it. He didn’t want to fall into that trap again, but he believed the only way to get clean was to remove himself from everything he had known.
Mostly I remember taking long walks on the Mesa with Jim and his dog, Jo’mama. He carried a small notebook so he could jot down images and phrases that came to him wherever he was. Weekly I drove him ‘over the hill’ to San Rafael on my way to work in San Francisco so he could pick up his supply of methadone. Afterward he’d tell stories over breakfast at the Pancake House. Sometimes his stories, like about how much he loved the needle and exactly what it felt like shooting up or about finding someone dead in the park, were said way too loudly and other patrons, there with their families, would ask him to quiet down or leave. He had the uncanny ability to make a tale—about being at a fancy dinner party where he nodded out into a plate of spaghetti—into something both hilarious and shameful, his Catholic guilt conflicting with pride at flaunting the conventions of society and doing something so outrageous. He got a little-boy pleasure out of being shocking and I was a good audience for that.
He’d stay up really late on the nights he picked up his methadone (they’d always give people an extra strong dose at the clinic). He’d watch TV and write down images that came into his mind. He’d smoke cigarettes then, just so they’d burn down to his fingers and wake him up, letting him capture the images from his hypnogogic state. Sometimes he’d deliberately do the same thing in bed, and all the blankets were filled with cigarette holes. The possibility of fire was less important than his desire to write down what emerged from that half-dream state. There was a subtle self-destruct side of him that never fully let up.
I tried to get Jim to go to Smiley’s Bar for dancing or to community events, but he’d rarely do so—except for an occasional poetry reading—so I’d go alone. He preferred his quiet life. Susan Friedland, the editor of his poetry book, Living at the Movies, was a regular visitor, whom Jim always welcomed. One woman, who had known him in New York, lived for a while in a lean-to covered with plastic tarps attached to the back of the farmhouse, until it got too cold. Patty Smith would call every week or two, maintaining one of his few connections with the old life back in New York. Local poets stopped by occasionally but seemed to respect Jim’s desire for privacy; yet everyone knew who he was. I remember his doing some final edits on Basketball Diaries. After a few months I moved into a separate cabin behind the main house to give both Jim and me our individual spaces. (Photo of my cabin under the eucalyptus.)
Jim was a paradox, being both shy and confident, quiet and talkative, cynical and trusting, and always deceptively deep. He was a ‘somebody’ who was temporarily hiding out from the world, and he knew it. He admitted, without any qualms, to having done plenty of stupid, even harmful, things, and yet he was one of the kindest people I’ve ever known, and he’d be mortified to think he had hurt anyone. He hated when people wanted him to comment on their poems because he couldn’t stand the thought of causing them pain or discouraging them.
He and Jo’mama adored each other and were inseparable. At times he seemed so beautiful he’d take my breath away. He was healthy and strong and his face and body well-filled out—a complete contrast to all the other photos I’ve seen of him. His exercise was mostly from walking, throwing sticks for Jo’mama and chopping wood. He had a long, lanky stride but was never in a hurry to get anywhere. Not much bothered him since he could wrap himself up in his own world and leave others to theirs. He was, however, deathly afraid that there would be a big earthquake—mostly because of being cut off suddenly from his methadone. He only got upset with me once, when I bought him a small color TV to replace his tiny black-and-white one (which he said he preferred). It’s like he wanted a totally stripped-down life—to get as clean on the inside as he was on the outside.
Not long after Jim and I moved into the farmhouse, Rosemary and her then-boyfriend moved into another cabin on the property. She had been in a motorcycle accident the year before and was still recovering. One leg was a couple of inches shorter than the other as the result of a life-saving surgery and she limped noticeably—which contrasted with her otherwise ethereal beauty. She said she moved to the Bay Area to do private bodywork sessions with Moshe Feldenkrais who came to California a couple of times a year, and within two years she walked without a limp. She also had to wait for money from the lawsuit over the accident in order to go to law school. They didn’t have a bath or shower in their cabin and had to use ours, so Jim and I got to know Rosemary pretty well. She was really into music and Patti Smith was her idol, which was a link between her and Jim right from the beginning. (This photo of Rosemary was an accidental double exposure taken in the community garden.)
I don’t remember exactly what month it was that Jim and Rosemary got together. I had moved into my own place on the property and was spending a lot of time at the college where I taught in San Francisco. Basketball Diaries was about to be published and Jim needed a photo for the cover. He asked me to take his picture for it. Both Rosemary and I had been in a local photography class and used their darkroom. I took a couple of photos (see the first two on my blog), but, even before I’d developed them I knew they weren’t right. I had been aware of a growing attraction and tension between the two of them, and Jim finally confessed to me how he felt about her. So I suggested Rosemary take some photos, too. I think it was the photo-shoot that was the turning point in their admitting to each other how they felt. And, it was Rosemary’s photo that ended up on the cover of the book (rightly so).
Although all of us were living like poor hippies, there was a sense that this was just a temporary timeout in a magical otherworld, and then each of us would return to the paths we were really meant to take. Legend has it that Bolinas was a Native American healing center but that the energy was so powerful that if you stayed longer than three days you would go crazy. I can affirm, it’s true.
Soon after Rosemary and Jim got together we all went our different ways. I moved back to San Francisco, Rosemary went first to law school in Colorado and Jim followed her there, but then she was accepted at the last minute at Stanford and they got married around that time. I saw them about a year later in Palo Alto at the home of a law school professor from the college where I taught. Jim talked about doing the gig with Patti Smith and the possibility of a recording contract. Rosemary was obviously into being his lawyer/manager. I didn’t keep up with them after that as my own life took a major turn with a new relationship (my partner of 21 years) and living in Mexico for a year where our daughter was born.
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September 15, 2009 at 4:18 pm
David Attwood
Well, Mary, you knew him when his soul was shining through. He died too young, but he did it on his terms. God bless him and may you bask in your remembrances of the better time.
Blessings,
Davdi
September 15, 2009 at 4:26 pm
mkg
David – the picture of Jim in his cap and old sweater says it all. He was one of the sweetest, gentlest souls I’ve ever known.
Mary
September 15, 2009 at 5:05 pm
Shari
Mary, I’m sorry to read about your loss. My thoughts are with you and his friend & family.
September 15, 2009 at 7:01 pm
Julia
Peace.
September 15, 2009 at 8:33 pm
Nora Jean Gatine
I had the honor of Jim reading some of my writing and he said his favorite line of mine was “ambivalence is the killer of romance.” I’ll never forget his kindness, generosity of spirit, and his laugh.
September 15, 2009 at 10:02 pm
pammie couchman
My thoughts are with you Mary.
Although I never knew him you can see the light of a enlightend soul within his eyes.
Much Love
Pammie
September 16, 2009 at 1:21 am
Ferol Humphrey
Mary, what a thing, to find out about this man now but not before. I appreciate your sharing your friend with us the way you knew and loved him. This is quite a song. I have looked all over the place and am wishing him on, positive waves ~ ~ ~ ~ And for you.
September 16, 2009 at 12:09 pm
brian
These are fantastic! thanks for publishing them. I did not know Jim but i loved his work and met him a couple of times at his readings. he was and continues to be an inspiration.
may his spirit continue to shine.
brian
September 16, 2009 at 5:53 pm
Laura Stansbury
Wow Mary I saw a message from Cassie Carter to check out the photo’s they are amazing!! Its good to see the Smile. i am still in shock….This is just bogus…..
Regards
Laura
September 16, 2009 at 7:00 pm
mkg
Thanks, everyone. I mostly wanted people to see a side of Jim that was rarely revealed.
PBS Art Beat with Jeffrey Brown has a wonderful short phone interview with Patti Smith who remembers his spirit much as I did. She was one of the few New York people who called Jim regularly during his reclusive days in Bolinas, though many others kept in touch less often.
September 17, 2009 at 7:14 pm
tom clark
Mary,
I see Jim right up there under The Magician and I say, That’s him.
Lovely of you to put up these heartbreaking photos of this man whose sweetness blessed us all. That sweet shy smile I saw most every day, ambling past that little shack in the woods were he and Jo’mama dwelt.
Thanks for coming over to the personal commemoration I put up at my place, in case others wish to follow it”s here:
Jim Carroll
And also I’ve commemorated the funeral service (and the “Catholic boy”) here:
Jim Carroll: Pax Aeternum
Thanks and blessings to you once again.
Tom
September 17, 2009 at 8:15 pm
mkg
Tom,
Thank you for the memories of Bolinas and of how Jim could welcome with pleasure the pain of a spider and find in it a whole world. How much you evoke in a few words and pictures.
October 8, 2009 at 10:19 pm
David Alan Richards
I took a ten week poetry course with him at a New York YMCA in the eighties–one of the few good things that happened to me back then. He was a fine teacher with a great sense of humor and, of course, a wonderful artist.
It’s funny, I thought he would be really angry because, he was sort a punkish rock and roll star among other things, but he was really a gentleman, and funny, and smart, and a very nice guy.
I’m glad I had the chance to be one of his students.
November 18, 2009 at 2:59 pm
Debbie Chapnick
I was photographing punk rock in New York doing some work for Stiff Records. I was at The Ritz one night and saw Jim play. He was wearing all black, with a glow-in the-dark rosary around his neck.
The next day I was walking on 5th Ave, near 59th Street. I stopped to buy a soda from a pretzel vendor, and there was Jim, standing right next to me. I told him that I saw him play the night before and that I really liked it.
He said thanks and then offered to pay for my soda. I thought it was really sweet.
November 24, 2009 at 10:41 am
Bill G Soule
I very much enjoy the recollections of you time with Jim Carroll. Your peaceful and non judging way of allowing others to view your time with him is a welcoming contrast to an otherwise nerve-racking image. Jim Carroll’s courage and sacrifice to break-away, find a life, and not lose his soul exemplies hope.
His willingness to share the journey and reveal a life gained is a tribute to his love and willingness to give of himself. His story has touched me deeply. Mary, thank you for sharing your story.
January 28, 2010 at 2:52 pm
Joe Papaleo
Mary what you wrote was beautiful. I used to see Jim weekly in nyc in the 80’s as we were on the same methadone program. Never got to know him unfortunately. I was afraid he’d think I was only interested in him for who he was or, worse, trying to get money. A mistake I will always regret. The pictures of him in Bolinas showed a happier Jim than I have ever seen. He was lucky to have known you. Thank you. I appreciate your reactions to his being on methadone and the lack of any judgements. Your innocent but accurate description of living with someone on methadone was refreshing. I’ve always felt that we should be alone when we want to nod all night but, then again, I never woke from a nod with poems in my head. Bless you Mary. Joe P.
March 13, 2010 at 9:14 am
Bill DeNoyelles
Thank you for this post. Very moving and sensitive. A nice way of filling in the gaps of his bio with respect.
I met Jim several times in the 1980’s after gigs and poetry readings at The St. Marks Poetry Project. He was kind and generous with his time and conversation. At a gig in Mount Vernon I gave him a rosary without a cross, in its place a St. Christopher medal that read “I’m a Catholic, in case of emergency please call a priest.” Jim loved it. He can be seen wearing it in Poetry in Motion by Ron Mann. Whenever I had occasion to see him I gave him a Catholic Medal. He never mocked them for, I believe, he held them in reverence. Thanks again.
September 17, 2018 at 12:38 pm
Robert abrams
My Mom Pegge Abrams and Rosemary introduced me to JimCarroll and saw him play at a small venue in raleigh n.c. when i was 16 yrs.old was the best show i have ever seen
September 18, 2018 at 1:22 pm
mkg
Robert, Bill and others,
I appreciate your stories of meeting Jim or hearing him play. He had a warm heart and tried to be kind to everyone.
Mary
October 17, 2020 at 11:30 am
Roxa Dox
WOW Thanks for sharing this gallery of beautiful rare photos.
MY JAW DROPPED that Jim Carroll knew the elite hippie community of all time. THE TOWN THAT HID ITS SIGN EVERYTIME THE CHP TRIED TO PUT IT UP.
G-D LOVE YOU.
Good times in the Elusive Paradise that (was?) Bolinas.
Welcome tourists!
Now go home.
oh if only we had been more serious when we had the chance…
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